{"id":13951,"date":"2023-08-24T08:10:38","date_gmt":"2023-08-24T08:10:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/?p=13951"},"modified":"2023-08-24T08:10:38","modified_gmt":"2023-08-24T08:10:38","slug":"nyc-double-decker-buses-are-disaster-waiting-to-happen-guides-say","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/?p=13951","title":{"rendered":"NYC Double-Decker Buses Are Disaster Waiting To Happen, Guides Say"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>NEW YORK CITY \u2014 When a double-decker sightseeing bus driver ran a red light and smashed into an MTA bus July 6, injuring 67 people, longtime licensed tour guide Brendan Rothman-Hicks wasn&#8217;t surprised, he told Patch. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It could have happened on a tour I was on,&#8221; he said. &#8220;To be perfectly honest, I think some of the drivers were just reckless.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Rothman-Hicks recalled the &#8220;countless times&#8221; that bus drivers ran one or more red lights during tours when he worked for a double-decker sightseeing company.<\/p>\n<section class=\"styles_SubscribeForm__0dj5n\">\n<h2 class=\"styles_SubscribeForm__title__F_olP\">Find out what&#x27;s happening in New York Citywith free, real-time updates from Patch.<\/h2>\n<p>He&#8217;s not alone in his concerns.<\/p>\n<p>Multiple tour guides who spoke to Patch roundly criticized the three companies running New York City&#8217;s double-decker sightseeing buses for a poor focus on safety.<\/p>\n<section class=\"styles_SubscribeForm__0dj5n\">\n<h2 class=\"styles_SubscribeForm__title__F_olP\">Find out what&#x27;s happening in New York Citywith free, real-time updates from Patch.<\/h2>\n<p>Their concerns are echoed by lawmakers and advocates pushing legislation to mandate staffing on upper levels of the buses. <\/p>\n<p>And tourists themselves have flooded sites such as Tripadvisor with bad and &#8220;scary&#8221; reviews. <\/p>\n<p>One reviewer wrote a double-decker driver threw them off the bus after her 8-year-old boy checked for seats on the top level because there was no air conditioning.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He yelled and made threats while edging closer to strike us,&#8221; the reviewer wrote.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;STAY FAR AWAY!&#8221; another wrote after recounting an experience in which a bus hit a car.<\/p>\n<h3>A &#8216;Parasitic&#8217; Relationship<\/h3>\n<p>Fred Pflantzer knew double-decker tour companies were trouble even before he learned bathroom break cuts had drivers sometimes urinating in a hole in the back of buses.<\/p>\n<p>A longtime city sightseeing guide who now owns NY See Tours, Pflantzer said his stint working for double-decker companies showed the experience leaves much to be desired, for passengers and guides alike.<\/p>\n<p>Double-decker buses are notorious for not having heat in winter, or air conditioning in summer, he said. Employees couldn&#8217;t take bathroom breaks, forcing some drivers to do their business into a hole near the engine in back, he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They were just tremendously abusive to all their employees,&#8221; Pflantzer said. &#8220;And they had absolutely no concern for the guests on the bus.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The double-decker sightseeing niche in New York City tourism has traditionally been carved out by three companies: Big Bus, Gray Line and TopView, which all failed to return Patch&#8217;s requests for comment.<\/p>\n<p>Their pitches to tourists are all similar: see all of New York City&#8217;s biggest attractions from a bus that&#8217;s an experience in itself for $49 on up.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;TopView offers the best New York sightseeing bus tours led by local experts so you won&#8217;t miss the most important attractions,&#8221; reads that company&#8217;s website.<\/p>\n<p>But there&#8217;s a broad gulf between those promises and reality, said James Hoffman, a New York City sightseeing guide.<\/p>\n<p>Like other guides who spoke with Patch for this story, Hoffman worked for one or more double-decker companies during his career. <\/p>\n<p>The past tense in &#8220;worked&#8221; is deliberate \u2014 several double-decker tour companies shifted to pre-recorded audio guides, Hoffman said.<\/p>\n<p>This means bus drivers now shoulder responsibilities, from handling tickets to answering questions about the tours, that once fell to guides, Hoffman said.<\/p>\n<p>The drivers even have to cue up the pre-taped tour recordings to be in sync with where they&#8217;re driving, all while they&#8217;re behind the wheel in heavy Manhattan traffic, he said. <\/p>\n<p>They should be entirely focused on driving and keeping people safe, said Hoffman.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The general culture of putting profits ahead of consumer protections or safety issues is a problem in the double-decker bus industry,&#8221; Hoffman said. &#8220;A lot of these companies don\u2019t have a symbiotic relationship with New York City, they have a parasitic one.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>All the guides who spoke with Patch were curious about the exact circumstances behind the July 6 double-decker crash, which involved a bus from TopView.<\/p>\n<p>When asked for an update on the crash investigation, NYPD officials directed Patch to a news conference shortly after the incident and said the double-decker bus driver \u2014 a 53-year-old man \u2014 received a summons for disobeying a steady red light.<\/p>\n<p>Officials have said the double-decker driver ran through the red light about 7 p.m. at East 23rd Street and First Avenue and T-boned an MTA bus. The crash left 67 people injured and 32 hospitalized, officials said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I thought, &#8216;Oh my God, those poor people,'&#8221; Pflantzer said. &#8220;They\u2019re in a panic and there\u2019s no one to guide them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h3>&#8216;Thrown Under The Bus&#8217;<\/h3>\n<p>Double-decker Rider Heidi D. watched in dismay as her bus in Chinatown and drove the wrong way on one-way streets late at night, she told TripAdvisor in an April to review of TopView. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Very scary and disappointing experience,&#8221; Heidi wrote. &#8220;When I asked for a refund due to safety issues, the request was denied.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>She&#8217;s not the only rider to bring complaints to the tourism review sight. <\/p>\n<p>TripAdvisor ratings for the three double-decker bus companies in New York City generally hover between three and four stars \u2014 normally a tourism kiss of death in a system where anything less than five is considered negative.<\/p>\n<p>More formal concerns are documented in &#8220;Thrown Under the Bus&#8221;, a 2017 study by state Sen. Brad Hoylman-Sigal recirculated after the weekend&#8217;s crash. <\/p>\n<p>The report outlines several significant crashes that left passengers and pedestrians with serious head injuries, mangled limbs and other trauma.<\/p>\n<p>The state has little to no enforcement power over the buses, operators are under no obligations to report crash data and double-decker drivers are exempt from laws that ban convicted sex offenders or drunken drivers from driving other similar vehicles, the study found.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;What we found was alarming,&#8221; the study states. &#8220;These vehicles are operating in an environment of legal loopholes, ambiguous jurisdiction and lax enforcement.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Patrick Casey, a secretary for the Guides Association of New York City, told Patch he too tried and failed to find recent data about crashes involving double-decker buses. <\/p>\n<p>Casey blamed the gray area in which double-decker buses operate. <\/p>\n<p>He argued the industry needs legislation focused on worker and consumer safety, especially now that bus drivers are in charge of everything, including the ongoing flow of pre-recorded audio tours.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s a disaster now waiting to happen,&#8221; Casey said.<\/p>\n<p>City Council legislation has been brewing since 2018, and backed by the guides&#8217; association, would restore at least some safety, contends Casey.<\/p>\n<p>Click Here: <a href='https:\/\/www.jerstores.com\/new-zealand-rugby' title='new zealand rugby jersey'>new zealand rugby jersey<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>The current version sponsored by Council Member Gale Brewer would require a licensed guide to be present on double-decker buses&#8217; upper level when passengers are present. <\/p>\n<p>All guides have stories about double-decker passengers standing up on the top level, only to fall as the bus brakes or nearly hit their heads on low-lying traffic lights, Casey said.<\/p>\n<p>Guides are an inherent part of double-decker bus safety, given that drivers can&#8217;t easily see or communicate with the upper level, he said. And tourists, currently being denied the &#8220;full experience&#8221; of New York City, would benefit as well, he said.<\/p>\n<p>Doing so would be good for the city, even if New Yorkers have a love-hate relationship with tourism and tourists, he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Let\u2019s face it,&#8221; he said. &#8220;There\u2019s a huge amount of money in tourism.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"styles_HTMLContent__LDG2k SubscribeCTABlurb_SubscribeCTABlurb__M_Azu\">\n<hr\/>\n<p>Get more local news delivered straight to your inbox.<!-- --> Sign up for free Patch newsletters and alerts.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NEW YORK CITY \u2014 When a double-decker sightseeing bus driver ran a red light and smashed into an MTA bus July 6, injuring 67 people, longtime licensed tour guide Brendan Rothman-Hicks wasn&#8217;t surprised, he told Patch. &#8220;It could have happened on a tour I was on,&#8221; he said. &#8220;To be perfectly honest, I think some &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/onhee.com\/?p=13951\" class=\"more-link\">Read more<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;NYC Double-Decker Buses Are Disaster Waiting To Happen, Guides Say&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13951","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13951","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=13951"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13951\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=13951"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=13951"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/onhee.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=13951"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}